Presentation by Carina Girvan (Sleepy Littlething)

To SL researchers group on 28^th October 2008

 

Sleepy Littlething: OK - it's 10 past, so I think we'll get started.

Willow Shenlin: yea

Sleepy Littlething: FYI - I will be doing this through text chat

arabella Ella: ok

Sleepy Littlething: I have a cold and wish to spare you all my sniffing and coughing :)

Grace Blitz: yes cool

Seeker Esparza is Online

Willow Shenlin: easier to chat archive

Willow Shenlin: np

Sleepy Littlething: If you can't hear me for a while - shout at me (I'll have gone too far away from you)

Seeker Esparza accepted your inventory offer.

Sleepy Littlething: my opinion too Willow

Sleepy Littlething: Nust just as difficult to keep track of text :)

Willow Shenlin: indeed

Sleepy Littlething: can someone turn their voice sound down

Sleepy Littlething: nearly got my ears blown off

Sleepy Littlething: You shouldn't need it for the hour

Sleepy Littlething: I'd like to say a big hello and thank you to those of you that were participants in my project

Sleepy Littlething: Also hello to those of you from my college

Sleepy Littlething: trinity College, dublin

Sleepy Littlething: Hey Seeker - great to see you :D

Sleepy Littlething: you made it

Sleepy Littlething: I was just about to start

Sleepy Littlething: I didn't have chance to make beatuiful slides.

Sheila Yoshikawa: they look nice enough to me!

Sleepy Littlething: So I hope to position myself by the pictures that are relvant to what I am talking about

Sleepy Littlething: (let's see how that goes)

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Sleepy Littlething: So .........

Sleepy Littlething: Hello everyone and thank you for coming to this presentation.

Sleepy Littlething: First a couple of appologies - I am fighting a cold so I have decided not to use voice chat. The advantage should be increased communication, disadvantage, you will have to wait for me to type :) Second - my spelling is not the greatest and my mind isn't really working very well today (see cold reference).

Sleepy Littlething: Anyway........

Seeker Esparza: lol

Sleepy Littlething: My name is Carina Girvan (Sleepy Littlething). I have been resident in SL for just over a year and completed my MSc in technology and Learning at Trinity College, Dublin this summer. My thesis is entitled Communal Constructivism: An appropriate pedagogy for use in multi-user virtual environments.

Sleepy Littlething: The project involved creating a learning experience to explore Communal Constructivism (a relatively new pedagogy) within SL. To do this I created my 'banana' learning experience on the island of Murias.

Chimeracool Burner: Hi all--Chimera sent me to tell you she is in an Educause conference session. :-)

Sleepy Littlething: Murias is an island provided for through funding from Irish Aid (an NGO) for Development education. the PI for the project is Tim Savage.

Sleepy Littlething: np we will log the text :)

Chimeracool Burner: And wishes she could participate here--but I can't stay long. :-)

Chimeracool Burner: thx

Sleepy Littlething: So the 'banana' learning experience involved creating a platform above Murias.

Sleepy Littlething: The learning experience on the platform was designed to facilitate the learning of North-South Interdependence, a topic within development education.

Willow Shenlin: sheila Yoshikawa: no voice

Sleepy Littlething: Each participant/learner was teleported to the platform and given a THiNC book (if you haven't seen one of these I'll produce it later). This contained information abouut how to comp[lete the learning experience.

Sleepy Littlething: Hey sheila - could you turn your voice off?

Sleepy Littlething: I think you're mixing your skype conversation and SL

Sleepy Littlething: :)

Connecting to in-world Voice Chat...

Sheila Yoshikawa: argh sorry!!!!!!!!!!!

Connected

Sleepy Littlething: lol

Sleepy Littlething: :D

Sleepy Littlething: np

Bluewave Ogee: are we voice or chat? :-)

Willow Shenlin: chat

Sleepy Littlething: At the end of the experience, each group of learners had to create their own book in answer to a question. the question was the same for each group. New groups were able to read past group's books (I hope that makes sense)

Sleepy Littlething: I wanted to see if learning or knowledge creation increased.

Mariis Mills: perfectly

Sleepy Littlething: There we go, the table should have more room for everyone now :)

Bluewave Ogee: TY

Adra Letov: what was the question the groups were asked?

Sleepy Littlething: let's see if I have it up here.......

Seeker Esparza: I was one of the participants and found the activity very engaging

Sleepy Littlething: Sorry for the delay - I couldn't remember it properly

Sleepy Littlething: The question they had to answer was @What is North-South Interdependence@

Sleepy Littlething: they were only given information on t he banana trade - so they had to think a little

Sleepy Littlething: :)

Adra Letov: deep question

arabella Ella: and ... as a participant too ... we were given resources and asked to produce a thinc book as a group

Sleepy Littlething: so on the pictures over here you can see some of the resources they had to work with

Sleepy Littlething: they were given objects to interact with

Sleepy Littlething: These objects would give them notecards, tell them information in voice chat and give them textures

Sleepy Littlething: I hoped to stimulate discussion by the information given

Sleepy Littlething: So that's the teaching side of things....now onto the more rseearchy bit........

Sleepy Littlething: over on this side you should be able to see pictures of participants chatting, the artefacts (or books) they craeted as groups

Sleepy Littlething: and the group interview

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Willow Shenlin: hwo did you archive?

Willow Shenlin: was it chat only?

Willow Shenlin: about the group interview

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Sleepy Littlething: I collected teh chat logs of participants during the activbity, the books they craeted, my own observations...

Sleepy Littlething: ...as well as conducting a semi-structured interview with each group

Sleepy Littlething: (oh dear...I'm lagging - please be aware I my disappear!)

Sleepy Littlething: yes willow - I used chat only

Sleepy Littlething: I wasn't sure how I could collect the voice recordings

Sleepy Littlething: also not everyone had voice chat available to them

Willow Shenlin: by the way, how did IRB handle your experiment proposal?

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Sleepy Littlething: so this way it was more inclusive and I didn't have one set of participants being involved in adifferent experience to the rest

Sleepy Littlething: IRB?

Willow Shenlin: Institutional Review Board

Willow Shenlin: we have those in the US regarding human subjects

Seeker Esparza: Is that like an ethics committee?

Willow Shenlin: yea

Sheila Yoshikawa: yes

Sleepy Littlething: ah ok

Sleepy Littlething: we are expected to take ethics into consideration and I followed protocols that were already set down in terms of this

Sleepy Littlething: but being only a Masters thesis (and onlyt a minor one at that - apparantly) we did not have to go for review

Willow Shenlin: 'k

Sleepy Littlething: Our supervisors had to be satisfied with our activities though!

Willow Shenlin: sure

Sleepy Littlething: For those of you here that don't know me/took part as my participants - I should let you know that I have just started a PhD at my college - with funding!

Seeker Esparza: Congrats!

Willow Shenlin: any projects that involve human participants has to go through a review process (in the USA) no matter how small the project. There are several options, such as expediated, etc.

Sleepy Littlething: And that will mean ethics review boards will be much more important to my level of research

Adra Letov: congrats! well done!

Sleepy Littlething: ty :)

Willow Shenlin: Congrats! funding

Zelia Zapatero: great!

Willow Shenlin: magical words

Sleepy Littlething: lol - I love telling people

Grace Blitz: congrats!!

Sleepy Littlething: Fli and Pye will be sick of it soon :D

Pye Merlin: lol

arabella Ella: congrats!

Fli Nurmi: lol, not a chance

Sleepy Littlething: anyway - back to this.........

Sleepy Littlething: This last texture shows my analysis structure

Sleepy Littlething: There were three phases of analysis (after t he usual annonimisation etc)

Sleepy Littlething: the first involved taking the chat logs, artefacts and my observations to identifuy the features of Communal Constructivism

Willow Shenlin: what measure did you use for the perceived learning experience

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Willow Shenlin: oh...sorry.

Sleepy Littlething: the semi-structured interviews were analysed seperatly to gain an understanding of the percptions oof the learning experience from the laerners' point of view

Willow Shenlin: did you code?

Sleepy Littlething: the thirs took the results from the first two stages and combined them with the artefacts again, to find evidence of learning

Sleepy Littlething: sorry, yes, I should have said, for the first phase I was evaluating against a rubric

Willow Shenlin: or use an already set measure instrument for the semi-structured interview

Sleepy Littlething: The second was content analysis

Willow Shenlin: oh ok. cool

Sleepy Littlething: :)

Sleepy Littlething: So.... now my fingers are about to fall off.....anyone any questions?

Willow Shenlin: evidence of learning? how

arabella Ella: could i ask about the results of the research please? your conclusions?

Spiral Theas: Can you tell us your impressions of the advantages of collabortive construction?

Sleepy Littlething: ok - I'll deal with those three first........

Mariis Mills: what would your recommondations be?

Sleepy Littlething: Evidence of learning was assessed through analysing the content of the books created against the books already made by previous groups

Sleepy Littlething: This is quite tricky as it is VERY subjective

Sleepy Littlething: However the interviews were also important here

Sleepy Littlething: If people said they felt they had learnt from and built on the knowledge of others that would be a positive indicator

Sleepy Littlething: N.B. not everyone showed evidence of learning

Mariis Mills: sure

Sleepy Littlething: But out of interest that was at an individual level rather than a group level

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Sleepy Littlething: the focus of Communal Constructivism is on the group rather than the individual learner

KirShan Andel: what, in your judgment, were the criteria for a learning curve in participants?

Willow Shenlin: i think that makes it even more interesting

Seeker Esparza: do you have any idea of why some didn;t learn?

Sleepy Littlething: I didn't explore that - my sample was too small for that investigation

birichina3 Biler: Good afternoon, everyone

arabella Ella: were there not different levels of learning ... did you just consider content or also process of learning?

Sleepy Littlething: I have a couple of ideas, but nothing I could prove to ANY level

Sleepy Littlething: process came through from the chat records of learners

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Sleepy Littlething: becuase of the pedagogy I was looking at I was interested in the community rather than the individual

Sleepy Littlething: and so I analysed in that way

Sleepy Littlething: the pedagogy also influenced my research methodology

Sleepy Littlething: ALthough obviously a case study (only 5 groups), each case was slightly difefrent to the last - it had the books created by the prevoius group(s)

Willow Shenlin: how do you describe teh pedagogy you observed

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Sleepy Littlething: and so I used a multiple case study

Sleepy Littlething: Communal Constructivism is esentially the creation of knwoledge artefacts for and with others

Sleepy Littlething: So the ratefacts are created and left for future leraners

Sleepy Littlething: (oh - BAD typos)

Willow Shenlin: no no.....great l33t examples...:-p

Willow Shenlin: so wikis would fall under examples of communal cosntructivism?

Sleepy Littlething: so just to go back to one of the earlier questions -.........

Seeker Esparza: In sl, the tinkc book is a great tool for this

Seeker Esparza: sorry *thinc*

KirShan Andel: the communities under analysis are SL communities; do they, in any way, mirror any RL commonalities? Say, social class, economic stautus, etc?

Sleepy Littlething: what were my findings - Communal constructivism is appropriate, they did learn and we believe we have learnt something about the pedagogy in action within SL

Sleepy Littlething: I didn't look at RL social issues

Sleepy Littlething: All of my participants had a connection to education

KirShan Andel: Thank you, Sleepy.

Sleepy Littlething: But other than that I found the participant data uninformative

Sleepy Littlething: no trends

Sleepy Littlething: But that may well be because of my sample size

Sleepy Littlething: Again - this is really a case study

Willow Shenlin: KirShan, you might to look at the Pew Internet and American Porject report. It mentions that civic gaming experiences were more equally distraibuted than civic opportunities offered in high school

KirShan Andel: quite understandable; at an MA level, there are more restictions

Sleepy Littlething: And it was only a MSc thesis for a taught masters - so time was always against me

Sleepy Littlething: :)

KirShan Andel: Thank you Willow

Sleepy Littlething: Seeker mentioned the THiNC book

Sleepy Littlething: have you all see one?

Sleepy Littlething: They're a great tool

Adra Letov: would like to see one

Rin Tae has never seen one

Willow Shenlin: go to teh ICT library. you can get one fr free

Zelia Zapatero: me too

Seeker Esparza: I liked using it because I think if you are going to research in sl you should prob try to use the affordances of the environment

Zelia Zapatero: tks

Sleepy Littlething: me too

Sleepy Littlething: I'll rez the one I used for the project

Adra Letov: yes, is there a list of affordances?

Sleepy Littlething: WARNING _ LAG!!!!!!!!

arabella Ella: can we all get THINC books for free Sleepy ... cos i saw them on line and they are on sale there

Seeker Esparza: Affordances are just things that the environment allows you to do

Interdependence whispers: [READY] : Published by Sleepy Littlething.

Interdependence whispers: [READY] : 20 pages.

Interdependence whispers: [READY] : ID: 0-803-08062-5-16-43-ETjA

Interdependence whispers: [READY] : Date published: Mar 8, 2008

Interdependence whispers: [READY] : THiNC Publication v2.4c Script

Seeker Esparza: ie fly

Interdependence whispers: [READY] : Published by Sleepy Littlething.

Interdependence whispers: [READY] : 20 pages.

Interdependence whispers: [READY] : ID: 0-803-08062-5-16-43-ETjA

Interdependence whispers: [READY] : Date published: Mar 8, 2008

Interdependence whispers: [READY] : THiNC Publication v2.4c Script

Adra Letov: yes, but what are the ones good for research, just asking

Willow Shenlin: Arabella: check the ICT library. i am pretty sure to have seen it there for free

Sleepy Littlething: sorry - I'm just scrolling back up the questions -

Sleepy Littlething: i don't think they are free

Sleepy Littlething: and to make them you need a thinc book printing press

Sleepy Littlething: I like the books because they can be rezed in world but also worn as a HUD

arabella Ella: thanks

Adra Letov: thanks

Sleepy Littlething: Seeker confused me - becuase I thought she was stuck and all she was doing was reading the THINC book as a HUD like a good student :)

Seeker Esparza: Adra, I think the Thinc book is a good example of being able to construct something in SL with collaboration

Adra Letov: it is a cool tool

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Adra Letov: definitely want that

Sleepy Littlething: I inlcuded some loose instructions on how to create the books (with step-by-step) instructions in some areads)

Adra Letov: do you need a bunch for a class or copy one for all?

Sleepy Littlething: but still some groups struggled a little with the technicailities of uploading textures

Sleepy Littlething: Once you create one you can copy it as much as you like

Sleepy Littlething: just going back to one of the earlier questions........

Sleepy Littlething: Spiral Theas: Can you tell us your impressions of the advantages of collabortive construction?

Adra Letov: gr8

Sleepy Littlething: I think the THINC book and seeker's comments answer that

Sleepy Littlething: Collaboration is certainly possible in SL and for people to create collaboratively

Sleepy Littlething: but it can involve some techical skills

Sleepy Littlething: not all people have

josmas Flores: Sleepy, would you use something external for the collaborative purposes? i'm thinking about sloodle for my project

Willow Shenlin: have to go. sorry to leave . here is the chat og Sleepy

Sleepy Littlething: I think sloodle is a great (if slightly unreliable) tool

Sleepy Littlething: thank you

Willow Shenlin gave you Sleepy Littlething notes.

Willow Shenlin: bye.

Willow Shenlin: great stuff

Sleepy Littlething: bye and thank you

Adra Letov: thanks Sleepy

Zelia Zapatero: thanks

Adra Letov: will your thesis be available to read?

Sleepy Littlething: or at least sloodle WAS a little unreliable - I believe it's got a lot better but I haven't seen it since the summer

josmas Flores: yeah, there'sa new release, looks good

Sleepy Littlething: Well, slowly but surely I hope to have a paper either in a journal or at a conference. I will keep the SLr list updated

Adra Letov: good! want to read it

Sleepy Littlething: Otherwise I hope to have a copy up online around xmas

Sleepy Littlething: I'm going away diving in Egypt as my reward for finishing the masters

Sleepy Littlething: all other work is off until then :)

Sleepy Littlething: i think you're mad wanting to read it - but you're more than welcome to :)

Zelia Zapatero: sounds great

Terran Timeless: congrats and thank you, Sleepy

Sleepy Littlething: ty :)

Adra Letov: as an academic you'll come to want people to read you

Sleepy Littlething: anyone any other questions?

Sleepy Littlething: lol

Sleepy Littlething: yes - but a few months after submitting and I can see so MANY typos!

Fli Nurmi: what Sleepy is being very modest about is that she also won a Microsoft award for her thesis

Zelia Zapatero: I may have missed this since I was late - but can we get a copy of this chat?

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arabella Ella: brilliant news sleepy cool

Sleepy Littlething: lol - ty Fli :)

Reese Scribe: congrats. I would love to read it too.

Adra Letov: congrats Sleepy, put that in your vitae

Sleepy Littlething: yes Zelia - we have a couple of people keeping chat logs - I will try to merge them and send it out during the week

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Zelia Zapatero: wonderful - Thank you

Sleepy Littlething: Oh i will Adra - I think it helped a lot in getting the funding

Sleepy Littlething: np

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Sleepy Littlething: does anyone have any other questions?

Reese Scribe: what group does everyone belong to here?

Sleepy Littlething: you are more than welcome to IM me if you think of anything at a later date

Osnacantab Nesterov: Thanks very much.

Seeker Esparza: Sleepy, can you tell us a little about what you found to be useful and not so useful about conducting the research in SL?

Sleepy Littlething: The Murias project island is currently private

Sheila Yoshikawa: thank you very much and apologies again for the voice mistake

Seeker Esparza: ie diff between rl and sl

Sleepy Littlething: But when it is available for the general public I'm sure you will find out - Pye - do you have any more information on this?

Sleepy Littlething: np Sheila :)

Reese Scribe: Thank you for letting me sit in on the meeting ^_^

Pye Merlin: the short answer is no

Pye Merlin: however members of teh development Education in Sl group do haev access

Sleepy Littlething: lol

Sleepy Littlething: Well seeker -

Pye Merlin: "Development Education in SL"

Sleepy Littlething: One advantage (definitally a reason why I prefer etxt chat) is that you have A LOT less transcription work to do

Pye Merlin: allows ppl to visit the Island

Sleepy Littlething: you do have to be very careful though about annonimising though

Adra Letov: what needs to be annonimized?

Sleepy Littlething: As you might be refered to as Seeker, seeker, seek, esparza or anything else which I had to scan the text for

Sleepy Littlething: the text chat

Sleepy Littlething: All my records from the study were annonimised

josmas Flores: do you always need the RL info about your participants?

Adra Letov: yes, but this chat?

Sleepy Littlething: no - not this chat

josmas Flores: coz i fu don't have it, then there's nothing to anon...

Adra Letov: sorry, wrong topic

Sleepy Littlething: I think that depends josmas - anyone any opinions?

Sheila Yoshikawa: I think you need to treat avatar names seriously and anonymise

Sleepy Littlething: I agree Sheila

Fli Nurmi: yeah i agree with Shiela, lots of avatars have a big presence in here

Fli Nurmi: and are less than anonymous

Sleepy Littlething: If I do a google search for your avatar name - I could probably track you down in RL

Pye Merlin: mmmm

Sleepy Littlething: between google and SL searches

josmas Flores: you could, yeah

Adra Letov: avatar 1 etc

Sleepy Littlething: yep

Seeker Esparza: and mailing lists

Bluewave Ogee: Replace avatar names with numbers

Sleepy Littlething: or letters

Adra Letov: codes

Sleepy Littlething: I had five groups with different participants

Sleepy Littlething: so I had 1A

Sleepy Littlething: etc

Sheila Yoshikawa: I think even if you can't connect to RL - some people would feel they wanted it anonymised - they have a life here

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arabella Ella: sleepy thanks but i must go now ... i look forward to reading your work ...

Sleepy Littlething: np arabella - ty ever so much for comimng

Sleepy Littlething: I agree with Sheila

Sleepy Littlething: on annonimity

josmas Flores: yeah, i agree with you now as well

Adra Letov: yes me too

Sleepy Littlething: There is another question - how much data do you need to collect about someone's RL background?

Sleepy Littlething: e.g. age

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Sleepy Littlething: length of time in SL

Sleepy Littlething: occupation

Sleepy Littlething: in RL

Sheila Yoshikawa: doesn't it depend on teh research question?

Seeker Esparza: yes sheila, I think it depends on what you're studying

Seeker Esparza: rs info may be irrelevant

Seeker Esparza: *rl*

Adra Letov: interesting

Sheila Yoshikawa: in RL you often put in some routine demographic questions almost automatically that aren't always necessary (I think) can be a good discipline - focusing on what's really required

Sleepy Littlething: as someone new to research I wasn't sure, so i collected it at the beginning

Sleepy Littlething: Some poeple my find it a useful warm-up though

Seeker Esparza: I think it depends if youneed to compare it against rl data or if RL is a variable

josmas Flores: did u use it in the analysis? the RL info i mean

Sleepy Littlething: nope

josmas Flores: it was not relevant in this case then, but i can see a point in other types of studies

Sleepy Littlething: yes

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Sleepy Littlething: right - well, if no one has anything else - can I ask for suggestions for next week's meeting?

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Sleepy Littlething: Would anyone like to present their work?

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Sleepy Littlething: Or is there an area of research in SL that people would like to discuss

Seeker Esparza: maybe you need to 'volunteer' someone sleepy lol

Sleepy Littlething: For example Seeker did an excellent display of data collection tools last week

josmas Flores: yeah,t hat was good

Grace Blitz: can I find anywhere the archives from last weeks meeting?

Seeker Esparza: The presentations dont need to be elaborate, we really just want to talk about what we are all doing or would like to do

Adra Letov: couldn't stay for it but it looked so useful

Sleepy Littlething: it was good

Sleepy Littlething: I have the chat record, but can't zip it small enough to be able to send it!

Seeker Esparza: Dont be shy, we are academics and supposed to love sharing our work :)

Grace Blitz: oh ok i see

Seeker Esparza: Grace, I have a pdf that I can send you with a summary of the tools that were on display

Grace Blitz: yes please

Seeker Esparza: I didn;t worry about a chat log as it was mostly hands on

Spiral Theas: Sleepy, would it be possible to see your activity on the platform above Murias?

Adra Letov: Seeker, I would appreciate that list too

Seeker Esparza: I have had a couple of people asking about reproducing it in rl and sl so I will let you know

Sleepy Littlething: sure - I don't mind showing it to you - but acess is a little limited

Seeker Esparza: One of Sleepys colleagues is going to make it into a Think book

Spiral Theas: THat would be great.

Sleepy Littlething: I think Pye has gone - I will have to check with him or the PI

Spiral Theas: How could that be arranged?

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Sleepy Littlething: just drop me an IM (once I'm offline, and I'll meet up with you)

Seeker Esparza: Would be great for people to see the platform - really brings the concept alive

Spiral Theas: Terrific!

Spiral Theas: Thanks.

Sleepy Littlething: I got three hours sleep yesterday and it's 10pm here now :)

Sleepy Littlething: np :)

Sleepy Littlething: anyday

Sleepy Littlething: just NOT today :)

Seeker Esparza: lol - like me last week

Spiral Theas: right!

Sleepy Littlething: I wanted to recreate it here - but I had some trouble - namly not enough time!

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josmas Flores: as a participant i have to say that it was a great experience... so if u have the chance to see it don't miss it :)

Fli Nurmi: yes it's well worth visiting

Spiral Theas: sounds like it :-)

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Sleepy Littlething: oh thanks josmas

Sleepy Littlething: :)

josmas Flores: :)

Sleepy Littlething: Right - I have had a quiet word with a couple of people through IM

Sleepy Littlething: no one is willing to go for it next week

Sleepy Littlething: BUT possibly the following week (when I'll be away - boo)

Seeker Esparza: that's ok sleepy, Grog will be back and he has a couple of topics up his sleeve

Sleepy Littlething: so maybe Greg/Grog would do a session - what do you think Seeker?

Sleepy Littlething: lol - great minds :)

Adra Letov: i'm too new to this to lead anything and haven't begun research here

Seeker Esparza: :)

Seeker Esparza: Yes, I'll talk to him

Grace Blitz: yes i m in the same situation with Adra

Seeker Esparza: he is doing some interesting work at PARC so should be good

josmas Flores: would u guys be interested in a sloode presentation??? i would need a good few weeks though

Adra Letov: yes definitely

Sleepy Littlething: I would love to see how it's working now

Fli Nurmi: sure Josmas, that would bee great

Seeker Esparza: Sloodle would be great

Fli Nurmi: *be

Sleepy Littlething: but yes - you'll definitally need some time to set it up :)

Seeker Esparza: perfect for combining rl and sl

Spiral Theas: I've gotta run. Just wanted to thank everyone - and especially Sleepy!

josmas Flores: i'm setting it up right now for my project, still don't know much about it

Spiral Theas: Great stuff.

Sleepy Littlething: especially for logging of research data

Sleepy Littlething: ty Spiral

Sleepy Littlething: glad you could make it

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Sleepy Littlething: I have to go and pass out now everyone - I will try to send my raw chat log tomorrow

Sleepy Littlething: Thank you all very much for coming

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Sheila Yoshikawa: thank you very much

Seeker Esparza: Thanks sleepy great meeting!

Sleepy Littlething: I hope it was of some interest

Sheila Yoshikawa: it was very intersting

josmas Flores: thanks sleepy!